From: Bonnie Dannenberg Subject: Virtual Genealogy Classes and Transcribing Tombstones. Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 22:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Hi All, I thought someone might find these two articles of interest if you're not already subbed to this newsletter. Bonnie - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter A Weekly Summary of Events and Topics of Interest to Online Genealogists Vol. 2 No. 35 - August 30, 1997 Copyright (C) by 1997 Richard Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. All rights reserved. ================================================================ - Tombstone Transcription Project An interesting preservation project is underway with coordination being done online. The Tombstone Transcription Project is a "grass roots" effort being coordinated by Pamela Brown Reid. The purpose of this project is to organize volunteers who will work together to transcribe tombstone inscriptions and have that work archived for the future and made easily accessible to all. Quoting from Pam Reid's Web page: The tombstones of our ancestors were always meant to be lasting memorials to the lives of those gone before. Lately, I have been visiting old cemeteries and have been distressed to see how these memorials are suffering the ravages of time and weather. Many of these stones are becoming difficult to read and some have already gotten so faint that deciphering them is next to impossible. Fortunately, many are still legible today. But, of those we can read today, how many will still be legible ten or twenty years from today? We need to record these tombstone inscriptions now---before they are lost forever to the winds and the rains. Though many cemeteries have already been recorded by various Genealogical Societies, just as many have not. And, of those recorded, how accessible is that data to the world? If we join together and do this recording, we will guarantee that our ancestors an not forgotten----that their memorials will live on so that future generations may remember then as well as we do. You can participate in this project even if you live thousands of miles from the graves of your ancestors. The primary purpose of the project is to have thousands of volunteers record the transcriptions on tombstones in nearby cemeteries. If you live in Arkansas, then you can transcribe Arkansas cemeteries, even if your ancestors all lived in Virginia. The beauty of this project is probably also its biggest weakness: It is an effort by enthusiastic individuals without funding or sponsorship by any established genealogy organization. There are millions of tombstones in tens of thousands of cemeteries to be recorded. I wonder if this group is properly prepared for that sort of effort. For more information on this project, look at: http://www.geocities.com/~pamreid/memorial.html ================================================================ - Genealogy Classes Online Spectrum Virtual University, an "online university", is offering free genealogy classes. Students are expected to telecommute to virtual classrooms from Denmark, Germany, India, the Philippines, Canada, and South Africa. This so-called "online university" is not a university in the traditional meaning of the word. It is operated by Spectrum Universal, a company that was founded in 1970 to create free or low-cost learning centers. Spectrum Universal operates the Discovery Center in Los Angeles. Spectrum has since expanded onto the World Wide Web and now operates Spectrum Virtual University at http://www/vu.org. Besides its three genealogy courses, the university offers courses in Internet Law, Home Schooling, and Basic Hebrew as well as psychology/self-help workshops such as "Communicating In Emotionally Charged Situations" and "Managing Conflict In Business." Computer classes include "E-Mail Communication for ESL Students" and a 4-week workshop on Netscape Communicator for beginners. All classes are free and open to the public. Spectrum Virtual University reports that most of their students are adults in their 30's and 40's with full time jobs and families who like the convenience of logging in to classrooms after work and on weekends. The "Introduction to Online Genealogy" course will be taught by Marthe Arends. Marthe is an author and lecturer with 16 years experience in the field. She is publisher of "Online Pioneers," a genealogy newsletter. The class is intended for online newcomers. It covers using Internet tools such as e-mail, Telnet, FTP and search engines to access Usenet newsgroups, online databases, web sites, and various other online resources of interest to genealogists and those who want to learn more about their family roots and history. This class begins October 13. The "Writing Family and Personal History" course is taught by Susan Chaffin, who has written numerous articles about genealogy and is currently a staff writer for an online history magazine. Susan is quoted as saying, "You too can make history!" The class announcement goes on to say that genealogy is one of the hottest topics on the Internet today, and novice and moderately experienced family historians and genealogists who are interested in adding depth, breadth and textural richness to their own or their family's genealogy can benefit from this 8-week workshop. Class begins September 15. The third course being offered is "Designing A Genealogy Web Page" and it is already underway. 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If you want to see the current issue as well as back issues of the newsletter, look on the World Wide Web at: http://www.ancestry.com/home/times.htm and http://www.ancestry.com/home/eastarch.htm ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Hoisingtons in Montreal Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 23:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. I guess the following is an example casting bread upon the waters. In early May, I sent an e-mail to Canada requesting info on any Hoisingtons in Montreal because I had seen a book with "published by J.A. Hoisington & Company, Montreal, 1829" as part of its reference info. Today, I got the following e-mail. It adds at least 3 persons to the Jasper A. Hoisington family that is in the database and a marriage location. A son that is in the database is not listed, as the family moved to New York City before his birth in 1836. Harriette ====== Hello Harriette, It took me a while, but I was finally able to check the Montreal Protestant indexes (no Hoisington were found in the Catholic indexes). Here's what I found (the number in () refer to the page of the registers): Indexes for 1760-1835: Births Georgianna Sophia, 1834 (42), St. James Methodist Jasper Albert Manning, 1825 (60), Christ Church Anglican Louisa Amanda, 1833 (11), St. James Methodist Mary Ann, 1829 (24), Christ Church Anglican Pamella Maria, 1831 (11AA), St. James Methodist Marriages Jasper A. Hoisington and Parmelia Manning, 1824 (34), Christ Church Anglican Burials Alder Ozias, 1828 (50), Christ Church Anglican Pamella Maria, 1831 (A7), Christ Church Anglican There were no Hoisingtons in the indexes for 1836-1899. I'll be away all of September; send me a message at the beginning of October if I can help you more. Hope this helps, Claude ==================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Help Needed Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. I'm trying to get ready for my trip to MI next weekend. As I'll only have about 4 days of actual research time (my kid does want to see me a little bit at least), I'm trying to be as efficient as possible (my friends would laugh if they could see me now). So...I'm asking for help. If any of you have done research on Hoisingtons and/or related families who lived in Michigan, would you take a look at the following list and tell me if you have already researched them and would be willing to share your information for inclusion in the database I am preparing for a Hoisington website (more on that later). The list consists of families that I have some data on already. Dates are from birth and death dates. On a few, I have extensive data. On others, I may only have names. So, anything that you could contribute or validate would certainly be appreciated. Also, if you are looking for any of these families, feel free to ask for whatever information I have. I may not get to your request before I leave, but I certainly will afterwards. Thanks, Harriette ============================ SURNAME COUNTY TOWN TIME FRAME Alborell Ingham East Lansing 1920s Alborell Oakland or Wayne Detroit 1910s/20s Alden Calhoun Battle Creek 1880s/90s Austin Centerville 1880s Austin Hillsdale Hillsdale Bloom Park 1850s Bloom Kalamazoo Schoolcraft 1890s Bloom St. Joseph Flowerfield 1880s Chase Rochester Clemens Cass Marcellus 1880s Clemens Cass Marcellus 1920s Clemens St. Joseph Constantine 1900s Clemens St. Joseph Flowerfield 1870s Cowgill Kalamazoo or Van Buren Lawton 1870s Cowgill St. Joseph Three Rivers 1890s Cowham Cass Volina 1880s/1900s Crocker Oakland Avon 1900s Dain Gogebic Watersmeet 1920s French St. Joseph Three Rivers 1910s Goodrich Calhoun Albion Gould Branch Coldwater 1900s Gould Lenawee 1870s Hamilton Oakland or Wayne Detroit 1910s Hammond Mason Luddington 1880s Hammond Mecosta Hinton 1870s Hathaway Clinton Ovid 1930s Henry Cass Cassopolis 1910s Henry Wayne Northville 1900s/20s Hoisington 1860s Hoisington Orchard 1920s Hoisington Alpena Alpena 1900s Hoisington Barry Hastings 1910s Hoisington Berrien Niles 1920s/30s Hoisington Berrien or Calhoun or Montcalm Lakeview 1870s Hoisington Calhoun Clarence 1890s Hoisington Cass Marcellus 1860s-1910s Hoisington Clinton Ovid 1900s/30s Hoisington Eaton Charlotte 1880s Hoisington Eaton Charlotte 1920s Hoisington Genesee Fenton 1850s Hoisington Hillsdale 1840s Hoisington Hillsdale Allen 1840s Hoisington Houghton Houghton 1900s Hoisington Jackson Brooklyn 1900s Hoisington Jackson Jackson Hoisington Kent or Ontanagan Grand Rapids 1900s Hoisington Lapeer Attica 1890s/1900s Hoisington Lapeer Imlay City 1900s/10s Hoisington Lapeer Metamora 1860-80s/1930s Hoisington Lenawee Addison Hoisington Lenawee Adrian 1930s Hoisington Livingston 1880s/90s/1900s Hoisington Livingston Tyrone 1840s/60a Hoisington Mecosta 1870s Hoisington Monroe Monroe 1890s Hoisington Montcalm Sheridan 1850s Hoisington Oakland or Wayne Detroit 1860s-1930s Hoisington Oceana Hoisington Shiawasee Byron 1890s Hoisington Shiawasee Vernon Township 1850s Hoisington St. Clair Marine City 1880s Hoisington St. Joseph Constantine Hoisington St. Joseph Fabius Township 1860s-80s Hoisington St. Joseph Flowerfield 1870s Hoisington St. Joseph Three Rivers 1840s-1910s Hoisington Tuscola Tuscola 1920s Hoisington Tuscola Vassar 1900s Hoisington Van Buren South Haven 1890s Hoisington Washtenaw Ann Arbor 1880s Hoisington Washtenaw Bridgewater 1830a/40s Hoisington Washtenaw Ypsilanti 1930s Hoisington Wayne 1850s/60s Hoisington Wayne Plymouth 1840s Hoisington Wayne Portland 1880s Hoisington (Rush) Mecosta Hinton 1890s/1900 Hoisington (Wells) Cass Corey 1880s Holcomb Jackson Jackson 1870s Hughes Montcalm Howard City 1900s Hughes Wayne Plymouth 1850s Hughes Wayne Portland 1860s Hughes Wayne Portland 1880s Hughes Wayne Portland 1900s Hurson Kalamazoo or Van Buren Lawton 1860s Kelly Oakland or Wayne Detroit 1920s Kenyon Kent or Ontanagan Grand Rapids 1870s Krumm Cass Cassopolis 1900s Krumm St. Joseph Flowerfield Krumm St. Joseph Flowerfield 1860s Krumm St. Joseph Three Rivers 1860s/70s Lambert Cass Marcellus 1860s/70s Lambert St. Joseph Three Rivers 1860s/70s Mann 1850s/60s Mann Carmel 1850s Maples Hillsdale Cambria Township Maples Hillsdale Pittsford 1900s Meeks Pinkney 1870s Meeks Jackson Napoleon 1850s-70s Meeks Lenawee Rollin 1850s Miller Allegan Lee Township 1920s Murray Hillsdale Somerset Prentiss Isabella 1900s Ranger Calhoun Battle Creek 1900s Ruffner 1880s/90s Stone Oakland Royal Oak 1910s Truesdale Cass Cassopolis 1870ss Wagoner Muskegon Muskegon 1920s Walker Newberg 1870s Wells Jackson Concord 1890s Wells Kalamazoo Vicksburg 1890s Wells St. Joseph Flowerfield 1860s Wells St. Joseph Three Rivers 1860s/70s ====================================================================================== From: Lou Tharp Subject: Unidentified subject! Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:30:15 -0500 Harriett: I believe located in the twin cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul, in the telephone book there is a Hoisington Organization . I have tried and tried, but they won't answer letters of return calls, so I don't know how much help they might be. I am sure there should be some connections there. Have fun on your trip. Lou Q------------u-----------i-------------n----------n--------------- This e-mail is from: Brandon Quinn Smith E-mail address: quinn@jinx.sckans.edu ====================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - This and That Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. Was out surfing again and came up with a bunch of Hoisington names on the net, some of them quite interesting. More to follow. Harriette =============================================================================== Jason Hoisington, graduating senior at Hawaii Preparatory Academy, has been accepted by 5 colleges and hadn't decided on one yet. Ray Hoisington of Visalia CA posted to a website on the Conference in Beijing. Miles Hoisington is a lawyer in Massachusetts with a website on the internet that describes his practice and his educational/professional background From "A History of Quartz Hill, CA" - "The Dude ranch, a conversion of the former Earl headquarters, was a great attraction until the early 1960's when it was destroyed by fire. Excellent lodging and food were offered. A large ballroom had dancing nightly with live music, usually Les Hoisington at the organ. There were horses for the guests. In later years, only ballroom and restaurant were maintained. An old menu reveals that complete dinners were 50 cents each." Wendy Hoisington came in 11th in the Women's Sr. Beginner (19-34 years) class of the 1995 Humbug Hurryup Mountain Bike Race in Yreka CA There's a Hoisington Investment Management company in Austin TX Bruce Hoisington is listed in Long Beach as a volunteer for a hospital organization (but I was told by a friend that he might have moved to Kansas City) Mark Hoisington, who had been a post-doc at the Materials Science & Technology Division at Los Alamos National Lab, was put on staff Sgt. William F. Hoisington was buried June 5, 1862 in Section A, Grave 2398 of Corinth National Cemetery in Corinth MS. The URL for this site is very interesting and has a lot of historical background about the Battle of Shiloh and Battle of Corinth. ; ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Why My Grandfather Left the Grand Old Party Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Bruce Johnson is a Democratic activist and a Hoisington descendant. This article was on his website. While you may not agree with the politics, the article contains info about one of ours. Harriette ======================================================================= Why My Grandfather Left the Grand Old Party By Bruce Johnson Attorney, Raleigh, N.C. My grandfather was born in the tiny hamlet of Amesville, Ohio in 1895. Like the hero of the Horatio Alger books he loved, he worked his way through college, excelling athletically and academically, and went on to a career as a successful Wall Street financier, a tender-hearted but hard-headed philanthropist, and a provocative author. He always idolized Abraham Lincoln. Like his idol, he was a lifelong Republican--until just before he died. My grandfather saw the Republican Party as the rightful heirs of Lincoln. In his youth, he thought that it, more than the Democratic Party, advocated decency for African-Americans. As a financier, he saw it as the party of fiscal integrity. (I disagreed, and we had some heated arguments about this.) As an internationalist and as a Presbyterian elder who believed we share a common destiny with people overseas, he saw the party of Wendell Wilkie and Dwight Eisenhower as sharing his ideals. Just before he died, he changed his mind, and six months before his death, he cast a Democratic ballot in a Presidential election. Harland Hoisington left the Republican Party because it no longer believed in the ideals he had shared with it. To call it the party of Lincoln had become a cruel joke. It had substituted an arrogant "America-First" attitude for the world view of leaders like Arthur Vandenberg and Henry Cabot Lodge. Nor did financial integrity characterize a party that was running record budget deficits and turned a blind eye to the robber barons who were pillaging the markets. My grandfather was an independent man, and it would be presumptuous to say how he would have voted if he had lived to Election Day in 1996, the day before what would have been his 101st birthday. But I can take a guess. I think he would have respected Clinton's principles in keeping faith with our allies and democratic values in Haiti and Bosnia more than the go-it-aline Republican approach, and would have thought Clinton's financial policies more realistic than the facile approach of Gingrich and Dole and Gramm. And I have little doubt which party he would see as the champion of an inclusive society. My grandfather was proud to be a Republican for many years, and he had good reason to be. I wonder if he would feel at home in the Republican Party today. I wonder if there are other Republicans who have an uneasy feeling about what has happened to the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt and Eisenhower. When it comes time to vote, I hope they put their principles ahead of their party, as my grandfather did when he cast his last ballot. ===================================================================================== From: Bonnie Dannenberg Subject: Re: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - This and That Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Hi Harriette, You DO find the most interesting things about Hoisington's! :) I'm going to have to bite the bullet and learn how to do that.... Bonnie - ====================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: Re: HORSINGTON Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) >Hello Harriette, I saw your rootsweb listing. My fourth great >grandmother was Mary Ann Horsington (wife of Abraham Warren). >Mary Ann was said to have been the daughter of Benedictus and Dinah >Horsington. I have heard from another researcher recently that >Benedictus may have lived in Virginia. Do you see any connection or can >you provide any information? Also, I wondered if Hoisington is a >derivative of Horsington or vice versa? >Thanks for any feedback, positive or negative. Hi, Elaine. Hoisington is a derivative of Horsington and there are loads of us all over the country. Our immigrant ancestor is John Horsington (b. about 1650), who came to America in the 1670s. A few weeks ago, I asked for a lookup in "Original Persons of Quality", thinking that John might be listed. He was, and to my surprise, so were a couple of other Horsingtons...both in Virginia. Last night, I was surfing and put in "Horsington" as well as "Hoisington" on the Four11 search engine. I have a SHORT list of Horsingtons, none of whom were in Virginia, which surprised me. I will send that list to you as well as the reply I got on my lookup. If you know or find out that your ancestors were here as early as John, I'm pretty sure we are cousins of some sort or another. I host the Hoisington Mailing List online and there are about 20 Hoisington descendants who would definitely like to meet you if you are. I'll be back to you shortly. ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - New List Member Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. I want to welcome our newest listmember and descendant of Horsington (Benedictus, not John, in this case) Elaine Vincent Kantor. For her first posting, she has given me permission to post a copy of her latest letter to me. >Hi Hariette, > >I'm so pleased to connect with you and really appreciate all the >information you have sent me. Most of the info I have on my Horsington >line is from a book on my Reel ancestors done by Mildred Reel Buck. >The first Horsington she knows of is Benedictus who lived at least part >of his life in Craven County,NC. However I have just recently spoken by >phone with a Mr. Brinson about my Hill line and in the course of the >conversation we discovered that he has Horsington ancestors also. He is >the one who told me that he had found info on the father of Benedictus >in a library in Va.Beach, Va.(where I live) and that the father at least >had been a resident of Va. I'm waiting for him to call me back and give >me the info. and what reference he found it in.Of course I'll tell him >about you and the group but am not sure if he has e-mail. > >Here is the excerpt from the book by Mildred Buck: > >"Benedictus Horsington married Dinah_____. They lived near Pearce >Point(Pearson Point) near Arapahoe on the Neuse River. His Will was >probated 20 June 1732. Daniel Shine and Thomas Martin , sureties for >Mrs. Dinah Horsington(Housington), in estate of Benedictus >Horsington(Housington), dec'd." >"December Term of Court 1730...After Proclamation made the Last Will and >Testament of Benedictus Horsington was proved by ye oath of Ann Norrad, >one of the witnesses thereunto, Dinah,Executrix, of ye aforesaid Will, >made oath to perform the trust reposed in her as Executrix." >"20 Day of June 1732, at New Bern, upon petition of Dinah Horsington >praying she may have the marks admitted to record. Petition of Katherine >Horsington that she may have her marks admitted." >"Inventory of Estate of Benedictus was exhibited to this court by Dinah >Horsington on oathe, who prayed that same be admitted to record. >Granted." >"19 September 1732..A Gift Deed...275 acres of land acknowledged by >Dinah Horsington to Elizabeth, Dinah L.,Mary and Sarah...daughters." >"64 3/4 acres, 4th part of tract of land to William Fulcher by Will >of Benedictus Horsington of Patent of Pearce." > >Mrs. Buck goes on to say: >"They (Benedictus and Dinah Horsington) were parents of Sarah, who >married Cason Brinson; Elizabeth; Mary Ann, who married Abraham Warren; >and Dinah L. The other 2 sons in law wre Edward Martin and William >Fulcher. Do not know which girl married these men. Benedictus and Dinah >were parents of Mary Ann Warren, wife of Abraham. They were parents of >Nancy Ann Warren who married John Reel. John Reel was our great great >grandfather" > >Don't know if any of this means anything to you, but it's what I have so >far and I have not checked it. When I hear from Mr. Brinson, I'll let >you know and as soon as I can, I'll go check the reference he got his >info from here in Va. Beach. >Thanks again, so much. I'm very happy to be in contact with you. Have a >great trip! >Elaine Vincent Kantor By coincidence, I have been reading the first volume, "Atlantic America, 1492-1800" of "Shaping of America" by D.W. Meining (a very good series of books if you're trying to get background on when and why your ancestors might be in a particular spot). Last night I began reading a section called "Carolina and the Carolinas". From what I gather from this book, the Virginia Company first had claim to all land from St. Croix to Cape Fear and was divided into two sections, the Plymouth/West Country interests in the northern part and the London-based interests in the southern part. The southern part (Greater Virginia) began at what would be present-day Maryland and extended to Cape Fear near present-day Wilmington NC. Colonists, however, extended this by settling in areas now in South Carolina and Georgia (which were also claimed by the Spanish). Over time, the southern portion (NC, SC, GA) broke off and had a separate governor. Then, SC broke off, and then GA. The point of all this is that, when the documents in "Complete Book of Emigrants" which I quoted in an earlier posting were written, the whole area from MD to GA were called "Virginia". It is entirely possible that the Thomas Horsington and John Horsington listed in those documents were actually in what we now call North Carolina. I checked my atlas to see where Arapahoe was in present-day NC and found it in Pamlico County, not Craven. New Bern, where the will mentioned above was probated, is in Craven Co. and not more than 25 miles from Arapahoe. When I put all this information together, I get: In 1676, Thomas Horsington had been in Virginia [present-day NC?] long enough to need an apprentice. "29 August 1676. The following apprenticed in Bristol: Anthony Blanchard to Thomas Horsington, planter, 4 years Virginia by Unicorn;" (The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776) ================= In 1706, John Horsington was in VA [present-day NC?]. As he is listed two times in different ship's logs (early and late January), they couldn't be both records of his passage and could be shipments to him. (The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776) ========= In 1713, John Horsington is in NY [Long Island?], either as a passenger or as a receiver of goods.(The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776) ============ By 1732, Benedictus Horsington dies near Arapahoe, in Pamlico Co. NC (Will probated in New Bern NC) ================ It looks to me as though John, Thomas, Benedictus (and one other Hoisington whose reference I can't find right now) may all have been in North Carolina, possibly arriving at the same time, with John leaving and going to New York by 1713. If anyone else has other scenarios that they can draw from the above, I would be glad to hear from them. All of this is conjecture, but it might give us clues as to where to look for information that would pin down John's actual movements in America and even help to find the mysterious "Eben" that one Hoisington researcher says is possibly John's father. As I said earlier, I will be leaving for Michigan for two weeks but, if possible, will log on to check my mail. In any case, feel free to post while I'm gone. I'll get it when I return. Looking forward to hearing from you. Harriette ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Hoisingtons in Niles, MI Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 20:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. Lori said it was OK to post her e-mail to the list, in case any of you are looking for Michigan relatives. Thanks, Lori. Looking forward to seeing your next post. Harriette >Subject: Hoisingtons in Niles, MI >To: hariji@sirius.com >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:36:37 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Lori A Hoisington" >Status: U > >Hi Harriette, > >I'm finally taking a few minutes to send you some information. You requested >info on Hoisingtons in Michigan: I can provide a little info on the Niles area, >I can also get more from my father when I see him in a couple of weeks. > >I was born and raised in Niles, MI. My father was also born in Niles >6/22/29-Duane Edward Hoisington. He has three sisters: Anna Marie (Bakker- >Lansing, Illinois), Sandra (Ciccotelli--Chicago Heights, Illinois) and Karen >(Brandt--Oak Park, Illinois). My grandfather, Lucian Earl Hoisington, was born >7/4/1910(?)-(I may be off by a year or two). I believe he was born in Ovid, >Michigan. He had three brothers, Paul, Donald & Perry. He married my >grandmother, Helen (French) in the Niles area and then relocated to Hammond, >Indiana then to Chicago Heights, Illinois where my grandmother still lives. > >I have one brother, Mark (7/20/53) and two sisters, Marcia (12/31/58--Chicago, >Illinois) and Nancy (6/12/63--Harrisburg, PA). My brother still lives in >Niles, as does my mother, Greta Hoisington (12/16/31). My father is remarried >(Louise) and lives in White Pigeon, MI. > >My family line is as follows: > >me (Lori Hoisington Griffiths) > Duane Edward Hoisington > Earl Lucian Hoisington > Abisha Hoisington > Lucian Julius Hoisington > Abisha Hoisington > Aaron Hoisington > Ebenezer Hoisington > John Hoisington II > John Hoisington (English boy > emigrant ~1650) > >My copy of this lineage is puzzling, though, because John I and John II are >clearly identified as "Hotsington" I assume this is a typo. > > >I just realized I made a mistake above. My grandfather, Earl Lucian, married >my grandmother, Helen McLaughlin. My grandfather's MOTHER's maiden name was >Maude "FRENCH". > >Well, enough for now, I'll send more info if you think it will help. > >Bye for now, > >Lori > >P.S. My husband (Carl) and I are taking the kids to London and Paris in >November. Maybe we'll find some more roots while we're there. We won't have a >lot of time, but if you have some suggestions for easy contacts, we'll see what >we can do. > ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 23:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Hi, All. Got back from Michigan last night. As usual, "the best laid plans..." went awry, but I did get a chance to spend a couple of days at the Bentley Historical Museum on the Univ. of MI campus (which by happenstance is right across the street from the Computer Center, where my son works) and was able to read all of the letters Susan Melissa Hoisington and her husband, Benjamin Franklin Wells, wrote to each other while "Ben" was serving in the civil war. What a wonderful experience! I had heard the letters were there and hoped only to see copies of them. Instead, I was given a box which contained the original letters, a booklet written by Ben's grandson, and letters by their daughter Eunice written from India. They were in great shape and I spent hours reading them. Ben and Melissa were excellent letter-writers and it was like reading a novel, full of bits and pieces of family information and comments on the war and what it was like at home. I asked the library to make copies of transcriptions of the letters and hope to be able to share some of them with you. As I was there only the last two days of my visit, I was unable to get permission to put them online while I was there because the authorizing librarian was not there, but I have written to her asking for an OK. I had hoped to get to both the Lansing and Detroit libraries, which are treasure troves, but was only able to get to Detroit for about 4 hours of library time. You should have seen me streaking through those books and microfilms. Superman doesn't move any faster! I made it through 11 rolls of microfilm and about 6 books and will be posting the notes that I made in a few days. BTW, Lori, I took the train from Ann Arbor to Chicago and we went through your hometown, Niles MI. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm just a freak about seeing the places where people I've only known from books have lived. I can practically see all those folks walking and talking when I'm there. Almost jumped off the train when it slowed down as we went through Niles! People on the train must have thought I was just a tad weird, staring out the window at miles and miles of farmland, trying to see across them to Flowerfield, Marcellus, Three Rivers and Cassopolis. Anyway, I had a good visit, even saw my work-compulsive son a few times, and am glad to be home after almost 3 days and 3000 miles of train travel (6000 if you count the round trip). I love the train, but you have to treat it as an adventure...I missed two connections and one of my bags is still in Los Angeles! Only clothes... I never let the one with the laptop and my notebooks out of my sight, even though it weighs a ton. Next year, I hope to make it to the 99th annual Hoisington reunion in New York and then on to Vermont. So, Bonnie, plan on seeing me in August! Harriette ====================================================================================== From: Bonnie Dannenberg Subject: Re: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:45:35 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 28 Sep 1997, Harriette Jensen wrote: > Got back from Michigan last night. As usual, "the best laid plans..." went Hi Harriette, Welcome back! We missed you.:) Sounds like you had a wonderful trip. > library time. You should have seen me streaking through those books and > microfilms. Superman doesn't move any faster! I made it through 11 rolls > of microfilm and about 6 books and will be posting the notes that I made in > a few days. :)) > (6000 if you count the round trip). I love the train, but you have to > treat it as an adventure...I missed two connections and one of my bags is > still in Los Angeles! Only clothes... I never let the one with the laptop > and my notebooks out of my sight, even though it weighs a ton. Whew! Good thinking. I'm sure they would have loved to lose the computer for you if given half a chance:) > Next year, I hope to make it to the 99th annual Hoisington reunion in New > York and then on to Vermont. So, Bonnie, plan on seeing me in August! Just let anything *try* to prevent that meeting!! :)) That will be terrific!:) Do you have a date for that reunion yet? (The Clough reunion is also in Aug., probably in Kennebunkport ME next year, and the Joyal reunion is always on Sat. of labor day weekend, in Northern Vermont next year.) But I WILL meet you no matter where/when!:) Bonnie - P.S. I don't think anyone else on Hoisington-l has a Hoisington/CLOUGH connection, but just in *case*, I set up a CLOUGH-L surname discussion list at Rootsweb a couple of weeks ago. Very enthusiastic group of people:) So if anyone here needs "CLOUGH" info, you sub the same way you did to Hoisington-L.... =================================================================================== From: "Justin M. Kantor" Subject: Horsington Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:31:11 -0400 Hi Harriette and fellow researchers, I talked again with Mr.Kenneth Brinson, the Horsington researcher in New Bern,N.C. He told me that he had found land records which show that Benedictus Horsington bought 2 huge lots when Norfolk(Va) downtown was laid out, which he kept for several years, then sold and moved to Craven Co, N.C. Later this area of Craven became part of Pamlico County. Mr. Brinson has copies of the "plats". He states that Benedictus apparently lived in the Norfolk/Williamsburg area of Va probably in the late 1600s thru early 1700s and died in NC. around 1730.. He also told me that Benedictus was the son of Thomas Horsington and that he found this info in some legal document of which there is record but he couldn't recall if it was a will or what. He is going to let me know what the document was and said he would also send copies of the plats. I hope I will hear from him in a few days or so by snail mail.So far he hasn't been researching on the internet,although he has been researching Horsington for 10 yrs or more, but I gave him your email address, Harriette, and I think he is going to contact you. I asked him for permission to send his info. to the group and he said it was okay with him. I'll let you know when I hear from him and hopefully, he will join the group. Elaine Vincent Kantor musical@pilot.infi.net ==================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Horsington Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Great info, Elaine. I'm looking forward to hearing from Mr. Brinson. Is he a Horsington descendant or just interested in people from that area of NC? New Bern is, I think, only about 10 miles from where Thomas was living. Also, has he indicated what the relationship between John and Thomas was? Harriette ===================================================================================== From: "Justin M. Kantor" Subject: HORSINGTON Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:37:01 -0400 Hi Harriette, Mr. Brinson is descended from Benedictus Horsington through his daughter Sarah who married a Cason Brinson, Jr. and I'm descended through his daughter Mary Ann who married Abraham Warren. The 2 other daughters married a Martin and a Fulcher. Benedictus had no sons. No, Mr. Brinson hasn't discussed any thoughts he might have on the relationship between John and Thomas, but I'll ask him at some point. I'll let you know as soon as I hear from him. Harriette Jensen wrote: > > Great info, Elaine. I'm looking forward to hearing from Mr. Brinson. Is > he a Horsington descendant or just interested in people from that area of > NC? New Bern is, I think, only about 10 miles from where Thomas was > living. Also, has he indicated what the relationship between John and > Thomas was? > > Harriette > ===================================================================================== From: "Darcy Hoisington" Subject: Greetings from New Members Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:07:10 EDT Greetings to all Hoisington-related members! We are David and Darcy Hoisington from Syracuse, New York. Will hope to share information we have from Vermont/ Connecticut/ Pennsylvania Hoisingtons and related families. Please inform about 99th annual Hoisington reunion in New York -- when and where!? We are contacting other family members (on our branch) by snail-mail to get permission to share topics from our/their newsletter to you. We look forward to our new relationships! --David and Darcy ====================================================================================== From: Bonnie Dannenberg Subject: Re: Greetings from New Members Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:27:25 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Darcy Hoisington wrote: > We are David and Darcy Hoisington from Syracuse, New York. Hi David and Darcy, You're just a hop skip and jump away from me. I'm just outside Albany, NY.:) > Will hope to share information we have from Vermont/ Connecticut/ > Pennsylvania Hoisingtons and related families. Mine are in Vermont too. Do you have any connection to my line? Bonnie Stevens + Peter Dannenberg Margaret Joyal + Warren Stevens Eva May Clough + Joseph Joyal Lyman Judson Clough + Ellen LaPoint James Madison Clough + Caira Hoisington Sayles Hoisington + Abigail Davis Elias Hoisington + Mary Stowell Ebenezer Hoisington + Elizabeth Miller John 2 Horsington + Elizabeth John Horsington ===================================================================================== From: Harriette Jensen Subject: HOISINGTON_MAILING_LIST - Welcome Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Hi, Darcy and David. Welcome aboard! And with Pennsylvania Hoisingtons, too! I don't have a thing in my database on them. When I first started searching, I came across a cemetery listing in PA, but my system crashed and I lost the information. I know it was in Washington County PA and that the listing was either from Pike Run or Ten Mile Baptist Church, but the USGenWeb site for Washington Co. doesn't list any cemeteries by those names. Do you know anything about that? Since Bonnie started the lineage ball rolling, I'll jump in with mine: John Horsington + Mary Stanborough John (II) Hoisington + Elizabeth Shalor John (III) Hoisington of Southington + Sarah Templer Major Joab Hoisington + Mary Boardman Barzava Zebulon Hoisington + Mahala Slater Jesse Hawkins Hoisington + Clara Agnes Perkins Daniel Jesse Hoisington + Mary Elizabeth Hatfield Clara Alice Hoisington + Jesse Franklin Morris Clara Beatrice Morris + Herbert Franklin Hardin Harriette Hardin McDonald Jensen I heard about this year's Hoisington Reunion just one day beforehand, or I would have jumped on a plane (which I loathe) and gone. It was on August 9th in Stockton NY. I haven't found out when or where next year's will be, but I will work on it. It's going to be the 99th Annual and I'm definitely going to be there! BTW, in addition to the archives on Rootsweb, I have been keeping all the postings from the list in addition to my database and the listing of Hoisington descendants in Harry Hoisington's 'Hoisingtons in America'. If any of you ever need a copy of something, just give a hollar. I'm still working on my notes from MI. Got an emergency call from one of my counselling clients last night and didn't get to them. I'll try to finish up after I see her tonight. Harriette